“I’m always going to pick up the phone. I think it’s probably fair to say [we’re] more likely to move back than to move up. I think we need all 11 picks, but you never say never… I’m always — whether you’re talking about going up or down — I’m going to pick up the phone and listen to what’s being said on the other side of it… I don’t love playing on the phone the week of the draft. Like, if it’s a real conversation, let’s talk. A lot of people, over the next 10 days, just like to call — and conversations aren’t really of much substance. ‘Hey, you wanna go up? You wanna go down?’ Sure, let’s talk on draft day.”